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| * The aLIGO sensitivity curve, [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-T1500293|T1500293]]. * Quad suspension PUM transfer function: above a few Hz, about 3e-8*(10 Hz/f)^4^ m/N. (Reference: [[https://dcc.ligo.org/LIGO-T1100595|T1100595]]) |
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| * Saturation: it seems the circuit might not saturate. Output RMS: 0.937V/sqrt(Hz). [[attachment:saturation-test.jpg]] | * Saturation: it seems the circuit might not saturate. Output RMS: 0.937V/sqrt(Hz). [[attachment:saturation-test.jpg]][[attachment:output.jpg]] |
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=== Noise comparisons 8/14 === [[attachment:sensitivities.png]] * Compared the aligo noise, noise component requirement (aligo/10), the DAC noise, and the noise of the first design. * It seems true, as Rana mentioned, that we do not need to care about the DAC noise above 100Hz. * The DAC noise is below the noise requirement. * Our version 1 design has too much noise, not good enough to detect the DAC noise. |
SUS Noise Monitor
Design goals
- No saturations as long as the coil driver input signals are at the 99th percentile or below.
- Provide enough gain (at 20 Hz and above) to boost the DAC noise above ADC noise (by what factor?).
- Is it possible to measure the coil driver noise? Or alternatively, with what SNR should the DAC noise be measured?
Design inputs
DAC noise model: page 6 of G1401399.
PUM coil driver transfer function. LISO models are available here.
- The worst-case dewhitening state for the noise monitor is ACQ off, LP on.
ADC noise level, about 4 uV/rtHz. (Reference: page 6 of T070213)
Coil driver input spectra, G1801540.
The aLIGO sensitivity curve, T1500293.
Quad suspension PUM transfer function: above a few Hz, about 3e-8*(10 Hz/f)4 m/N. (Reference: T1100595)
Coil driver transfer function
1G: CDtrans-1G.pdf
1k: CDTrans-1k.pdf
- The coil driver attenuates about 1/5 in the 1k domain.
Some design thoughts 8/5
- The current design uses a couple passive filters, interleaved by amplifiers. Passband 0.482Hz - 482Hz, gain ~200. Combining with the coil driver transfer function, the signal is amplified about 40 times from the input of the coil driver. Compared with the given input signal, it seems the saturation is mainly caused by low frequency signals below 10Hz.
- Following Rana's idea on Friday: a pair of low/high pass filter + instrument amplifier (where we get the gain), what else do we need?
- Sharper cutoff (Higher Q)? Perhaps higher order passive filters?
- Noise? Input impedance?
- If we have a good filter, according to the input spectrum, maybe applying a gain of 500? This allows the 300nV DAC noise to overwhelm the 4uV ADC noise. This also keeps the signal away from saturation, according to the given coil driver input spectrum. Do we have to worry about the strong mode at 500 Hz in both H1 and L1?
- Trying to learn about active filters. Would we consider using them?
Decisions 8/6
- Start from the existing design but
- spread the gain across the stages to manage risk of saturation
- Move the low frequency cutoff to 20Hz
- Move on to active filters for better stop band to pass band transition
Progress 8/7
Used WEBENCH Designer (Free TI filter designing software) and got a Chebyshev high pass filter with 5 stages of Sallen-Key filters. It has a sharp transition below 20Hz, attenuating 15Hz to -15dB; 10Hz to -50dB, as is shown in simulations. I also put a passband gain of 20 on the filters. The design and simulation results are uploaded. webench_esim_5774067_1_1_774987413.pdf
Plan to layout as such: Instrumental AMP (Gain 10) -> High pass filters (the Chebyshey above) -> high pass filters (Sallen-and-key filters, modification to the existing design)
- Test the noise in LISO
- Build it downstairs in the lab
- If saturates, we might consider moving the instrumental AMP between the stages in the Chebyshey filter.
- We hope the noise is tolerable.
LISO model and noise 8/8
Design/simulation documentsdesign.zip
Following yesterday's layout idea of "Instrumental amplifier -> high pass filter (5 stage Chebyshev) -> low pass filter (Sallen Key)", I constructed the LISO model and tested the transfer function and noise.
- Concerned about the risk of saturation, I put the instrumental amplifier between the first and second stage, and thus duplicated the first stage for the positive and negative inputs.
- I changed the Opamps to LT1792, used by the original design. The one chosen by WEBENCH is OPA2227PA.
- I did not know the input impedance, set to 50 Ohm by LISO and warned.
- The high pass filter quality at 20Hz is satisfactory.
- The noise is too much.
- Plan to put the instrumental amplifier back to the beginning and see how much that is going to help the noise. Or maybe the input impedance can make a difference here?
Noise and Saturation test 8/12
Saturation: it seems the circuit might not saturate. Output RMS: 0.937V/sqrt(Hz). saturation-test.jpgoutput.jpg
Noise: we need to reduce the noise. noise.pdf
Noise comparisons 8/14
- Compared the aligo noise, noise component requirement (aligo/10), the DAC noise, and the noise of the first design.
- It seems true, as Rana mentioned, that we do not need to care about the DAC noise above 100Hz.
- The DAC noise is below the noise requirement.
- Our version 1 design has too much noise, not good enough to detect the DAC noise.
